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CindyBax

Just because he can’t control his coalition partners doesn’t mean we need a new electoral system: we just need a new government #nzpol www.rnz.co.nz/news/politic...

Christopher Luxon promises MMP referendum if re-elected, Winston Peters calls it a 'power grab'Winston Peters has labelled the prime minister's call for a referendum on the MMP voting system "inexplicable" and a "power grab".www.rnz.co.nz
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Sara

That's the last reason we need a new electoral system, but we do need one. We need a different govt, not just a new/old one with endless do-overs where they never quite get around to doing anything different. Unless we are happy on this backwards track of course.

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CindyBax

compulsory voting? preferential system (maybe like the Aussies?) definitely not back to FPP though

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Sara

Definitely not any of those. I agree definitely not FPTP. I would rather ranked choice. Ideally I’d prefer a party-less system personally. I’m open to anything that improves MMP where we’re voting for 1 of 2 teams where yr team might just decide to exclude you. We’ve given politicians too much power

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CindyBax

the aussies have ranked choice - that’s what preferential means.

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Sara

Doesn't it mean they have to rank them?

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CindyBax

Yes. Preferential.

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Sara

I do not agree with having to rank every candidate/party.

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CindyBax

So you don’t vote for party in Oz. Only candidates for house & senate, ranked (ppl usually just push for party ranking over individuals?). I quite like MMP with the party & candidate vote. I think we just hv an extreme situation atm: numpty PM + RW ideology up wazoo. www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia...

Method of votingMethod of voting With every system of election there are two quite separate and distinct processes, the ‘voting’ process and the ‘scrutiny’ process, that is, the counting. The...www.aph.gov.au
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Sara

Yes I understand, I just don't support the difference of having to rank EVERY candidate. I prefer a system closer to our local elections. I haven't liked MMP for a long time, irrespective of this govt. There are too many issues with it and it hasn't delivered the claimed outcomes at all.

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Sara

I think it is working just fine for the politicians, and that's about all. Overwhelmingly popular polices remain undelivered, and we are more trapped in neoliberalism than we ever were. I want to see us build a real left alternative to this and that's what I will be voting for whether my vote

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CindyBax

I wasn’t here for the vote/referendum/debate - didn’t return til 2004. Little idea of alternatives. Local elections are FPP though, largely, with some STV (ranking). I hate FPP is not representative. We need an upper house; more checks and balances.