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Ok, fine but they are still democrats with varying views about social issues. We all agree on the need to rid the world of trumpism and maga.

Thank you! The media turns every election into a national trend and sign of Dem trouble

Every twist and turn of local politics doth not a national barometer make.

Who did the other 20% vote for?

“Hong’s defeat in WI proves that progressives don’t always win” Stunning insight!

There is certain amount of unbridled glee that Hong lost. Was this secretly written by Bret Stephens and James Carville?

"Hong's Narrow Victory in Wisconsin Shows The Limits of the Progressive Movement" is what they would have written if she won

NYT when centrist loses: "This should not be taken as indicative of any problem with centrist policy, only messaging." NYT when centrist wins: "This is proof that centrists are always right and progressives have overplayed their hand."

Angie Craig’s defeat in Minnesota shows the limits of the centrist movement

You know what this victory means for centrists? They are hanging on by a thread and need to take the left way more seriously.

Idk, I actually consider this a huge victory for DSA. The outcome being that close in a statewide election is stunning. This really has the same feel as when MAGA took over the Republican party.

Crowley is NOT a centrist. Just because he is to the right of a fundamentalist extremist that wants to cancel all holidays & white people, does not make him a centrist. None of his positions are centrist. They just involve some level of rationality. This doesn't make him evil.

Nuance? On MY timeline? Right in front of my banana bread? How dare you.

Oh no! "...proselytizing universal health care..." God forbid!

Like this is only going to deepen cause there's no economic or geopolitical urnaround anywhere in the medium turn. We are on the slide now, for at least twelve years.

Radicalism (by US standards) in rural areas at -1 percentage point seems like a big thing.

Is it possible? Possible some of your public has more than one brain cell. We here, wish you good luck with your election, you will need lots of luck.

what are the comments on there saying? aint no way im giving my money to nyt to read them

But no matter who wins the media will try to pretend that it means voters love Republicans!

Vote Blue. ✊🏻✊🏽✊🏿🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💙💙💙

And sometimes people vote and sometimes they don’t.

The article (gifted here) is actually much more nuanced than the superficial headline suggests. Believe progressive/SDP policies resonate only in urban corridors at your peril, establishment folks... www.nytimes.com/2026/08/12/u...

Hong’s Defeat in Wisconsin Shows the Limits of the Progressive Movement (Gift Article)Francesca Hong’s defeat in the Democratic primary for governor defied expectations and may have shown the democratic socialist wave cannot reach beyond urban centers.www.nytimes.com

And that voters mainly vote for candidates, not platforms.

Also, the moderate barely won with the entire state political machine behind him against a progressive candidate who was kind of a lackluster communicator. Not sure this is the huge win the moderates claim it is.

Especially when AOC and Bernie decline to endorse. Suss candidate, not a verdict about the issues.

No this is obviously Hasan Pikers fault.

Exactly. I really wish both factions would unite to defeat the christian nationalist republicans! Christian nationalism is our biggest threat. The only way to defeat them, is to continue to vote for the democrat candidate in the general election the next several cycles.

Also, different constituencies in different situations with different candidates vote differently. News at 11.

The NYT. Doing what they can for fascism.

Right? So tired of these "battle for the soul of the party" stories. Sometimes a particular progressive candidate will appeal to the voters in their state and sometimes they won't.

"May have shown the democratic socialist wave cannot reach beyond urban centers"

People are treating Hong’s loss (by 4k votes) like she was a shit candidate that never stood a chance and it’s funny lol. They did/do the same thing to Kat. It’s such an interesting conclusion to draw.

Lol, for the NYT, every centrist win is a mandate for neoliberalism, but every progressive win is an anomaly.

I have a Fox(News)-fed father-in-law spending a few days with us and we’re indulging his TV fix. The fixation on candidate Hong over all programming for the past couple of days was something to see, and FiL couldn’t process that I wasn’t even aware of her

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And doesn’t that seem encouraging?

Crowley will be the voice of the People!

Shocking if true.

The centrist in WI won by less than 1% and right next door in MN the progressive won by almost 20%. Why are there no articles about that?

and even then, it was a narrow loss. Clearly there are people interesting in more progressive and less progressive aims for the party

True, but "centrist" doesn't really apply to Crowley

And the FIRST criterion is hardly ever “left/right”. We all care a lot about that HERE, but that’s nerd stuff.

This sort of rational, nuanced discussion has no place on social media!

It’s almost as if US voters are made up of a diaspora of people and voting strategically is a way to get to where you want to be. Who’s have guessed.

Politics is local, duh...

Not to mention most voters don't really have a clear-cut picture of candidates' belief systems, and will vote on vibe, the cut of a guy's jib, or whether they seem like serious people. Hong in particular, I think, looked better on paper than on video and that was likely a big factor this last week.

As a WI girl, I know this. Trumper Tiffany will destroy WI. Our rural red, big city blue state requires nuanced candidates to take whole state races. Hong has said things that would make it really hard to win the gov race. Our boomer, gen x, millenial, gen z fam wants Tiffany beat. Hong was a no.

As a Dem I voted for the only person in the race who has a chance of beating Trumper Tom Tiffany. I want Dems to win races. I hope all the voters understand how devastating it be to our state for Tiffany to win.

This race is rock solid proof that progressives want to be heard and listened to and will vote against anyone who wants the job of elected office but isn't interested in doing the job. Establishment Democrats are great at the latter.

The amount over ridiculous analyses out there when it comes to this stuff is insane. Bad takes must be necessary for job security, I guess. You nailed it perfectly, I just wish others could do the same. It’s not hard either.

Might actually have more to do with who the republicans wanted to win and how much they spent to make that happen, rather than any differences in the party. www.weau.com/2026/08/10/r...

Republican group spending millions to influence who Wisconsin Democrats choose for governorThe Republican Governors Association has spent nearly $3.6 million through Right Direction Wisconsin on ads involving Francesca Hong as Democrats choose their nominee for Wisconsin governor.www.weau.com

You don’t fuck with Thanksgiving 🦃

if it weren't for the polls, "Democratic socialist state rep comes within half a point of the executive of the largest county, who was backed by the incumbent governor" would be a big story

Revelatory!

Sad to see all the slop coming out of major media. Even sadder, too many people believe media is still what it was in the 1900s.

We should be working toward one messy but coordinated party that seeks to remove Republicans from power and hold them accountable for their criminal behavior on and since Jan. 6th. This is the goal that should be uniting anyone who cares about returning to democratic norms.

Turns out running tv ads helps!

So, wait. Does this mean we WON’T be seizing the means of production?

They are PANICKING. lol

No I think we should extrapolate wildly from one race that could have gone differently if the weather were different.

The most effective form of social control is the limiting of people’s sense of possibility.

So regional differences are a real thing? Huh. Maybe that explains the dearth of Sriracha in Iowa restaurants.

When a progressive wins: "Here's Why This is Bad for the Progressive Movement" When a progressive loses: "Here's Why This is Bad for the Progressive Movement"

I think socialist policies can do very well in Wisconsin, but they probably can't come from a candidate so heavily identified with Madison. Half the state thinks we're nuts. The political attack surface is too large.

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"Stevens defeat shows limits of centrist movement"

These news pieces on this feels like cope, this is like getting your ass beaten every round then squeezing 1 point victory on one round and calling it proof that you are not getting your ass beaten.

It was a giant, tsunami-level wipeout of the leftist candidate by (checks notes) 0.47%.

I mean, Crowley seems fine. His platform has stuff I like that's not super specific. Hong seemed like the more interesting candidate, but I don't think this is a Bernie to Biden level policy swing

I think this could be a best case outcome for us because both the moderates/centrists and the progressives/leftists can demonstrate our ability to unify behind party nominees in our pro democracy movement.

I'm pretty baffled by how.uch they want to extrapolate all of the progressive potential from each race. My district just watched a Dem fight off a progressive, but it was a Dem who's stuck to the mission and stayed close to the community. (And renounced AIPAC money.) It's not simple.

Crowley is not a centrist. Very few Democrats are centrist. Almost all are liberals at worst.

Give me a break.

I agree and the NYT headline is just stupid.

Large swaths of voters all over the country are voting for progressive, DSA and DSA adjacent candidates. It would be a huge mistake to demonize these candidates and their voters.

Exacyly. I’m very progressive but i was not on board with her, but not my stste. Love Mamdani and was glad he won. AES , I was iffy on but Stevens was a no. Tired of the ones pandeeing to the right

Ah yes, the NYTimes, so eager to undermine the progressive left that when a more center Dem loses to a progressive by 3,500 votes it’s a major loss. The Capitalists never fail to show their true stripes.

Seems like it's looks!

Well no matter how “progressive” you are…being good at politics is still necessary…

Or that candidate quality matters more than ideology

NYT does not report anything in good faith. There’s certainly no room for nuance.