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I like this brainstorm: greatest achievements since 1969. Number one for me: eradicating smallpox What else?

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I get it from a narrative perspective. Kitty Hawk to Apollo 11 was 66 years; many people experienced both in their lifetime (and everything between). 66 years from 1969 is 2035 and the triumphs just aren’t as narratively simple.

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I know people will joke but I sincerely think the smartphone is a legitimate accomplishment. One of the few technologies that outpaced what many sci-fi authors and artists were predicting for decades prior of what phones could be, imo. A handheld PC/phone/camera/music player in your palm? Amazing!

Cancer care Statins MRI HGH treatments Botox Automated metros Autotransformer railroad electrification

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Nürnberg is sort of a pioneer in that as they were the first to convert an existing line with mixed operations during the transition

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The various treatments for cystic fibrosis that have taken life expectancies for those born with it from the low 20s to 65+

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And much of that was just in the last, what, 10 years?

The pioneer and voyager probes were all in the 70s Venera 7 in 1970 could be considered the first successful landing on Venus, or any planet Viking 1 in 1976 for Mars Huygens in 2005 for Titan The advent of space stations in the 80s Hubble, large cultural impact there

Molecular biology.

HPV vaccine

The French Messmer-Plan gets far too little attention even inside France itself. In 1973 France discovered that relying on oil for power was a problem. Barely two decades later they were so successful at solving it, they even had to scale back a bit...

mRNA vaccines, CRISPR CAS9 and biotech in general. We used to have to isolate insulin from animals. Now we can produce it in a lab that any middling university could easily afford – maybe even some hobbyists

The Oxford Covid-19 vaccine

The first baby conceived via IVF was born in 1978. Relatedly, the advances are more incremental but the improvements to birth control since the 1960s have been really dramatic.

Internet connected computers in everyone's pockets each with vastly more processing power, storage, and memory than was used in the Apollo program is quite an achievement

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But the use cases have proven sadAF

The Wikipedia entry for smallpox starts with probably the greatest two words in English, "Smallpox was..."

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Have to wonder how many people are keeping that page on near-constant refresh, just waiting with their itchy edit fingers.

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RFKjr is working on it..

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Not as itchy as they will be

Public health campaign against tobacco use. It’s insane how successful it has been

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I believe it was like 45% of US adults in the late 60’s and now it’s maybe 11%

Not at all the greatest achievement, but the improvements in observational astronomy has been almost unbelievable

NSF–DOE Rubin Observatory

Talk about a cosmic glow-up✨📸 This progression of images of galaxy group RSCG 55 shows the evolution of ground-based sky surveys spanning more than three decades🤯, ending with NSF–DOE Rubin Observatory's view. 🔭🧪

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Do follow @eso.org !

Good prompt.

The ISS

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The belated but currently ongoing energy transition

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AI depending on how it shakes out

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This last one mostly depends on if 'greatest' means 'best' or 'most significant'

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Apart from the ISS specifically, it's fucking rad that there's been people in orbit continuously since 2 November 2000. This site's nifty for checking in on who's up there currently: whoisinspace.com

Global child mortality rate dropping from around 14% to below 4%. One in seven of all children used to die before they were 5!

Social progress has been huge since then.

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I think it has to count as social progress only because LBJ rammed the Civil Rights Acts though before 1969 (Fair Housing Act just under the wire), but also, social progress is extremely context because the numbers on “do you approve of interracial marriage” stay low for a frighteningly long time.

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It only flipped to majority approval less than a decade before I was born.

repeating my regular call to make Smallpox Eradication Day an international holiday

Conveniently enough, ARPANET was created in…1969.

1.5 billion people lifted out of extreme poverty in the last 50 years.

In the US: accessible healthcare Criminal justice reform Ending homelessness and poverty Urban mass transit Long distance high speed rail Pleasant, efficient air travel Effective policing Mandatory vaccinations Effective efficient universal K-12 education Ending government corruption

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Ending war; world peace Preventing global warming Reducing defense expenditures USAID and reducing world starvation Free and fair trade Equal Rights Amendment for women Ending racism and discrimination Strengthening workers’ rights Simple and fair tax system Eliminating traffic jams

Yeah, nothing technological of the *type* “flight”. Arguably information processing and communication tech. Renewable energy is worth a shout. But socially it’s the massive decline in worldwide poverty, especially China. (Incidentally, The Pill was pre-1969)

MDT treatment for Hansen's Disease/Leprosy, 1981. Wikipedia: "In the 1980s, there were 5.2 million cases globally, but by 2020 this decreased to fewer than 200,000." It's not gone like smallpox, but there's substantial progress.

While it was invented in 1960, the birth control pill didn’t get widespread availability to unmarried people in the US until 1972. If we count it in the 1969+ camp, I’d say the ability of women to control their own fertility changed the world more radically than almost anything else.

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Eisenstadt v. Baird, 1972!

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And the drop in US poverty rates after widespread family planning were like 8% or something equally insane.

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Yep. I started using it when I was 20, in 1972.

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But has that improved the lives of women though? Have they become more happy as a result?

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Yes. Next question.

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Could you provide some studies confirming it? Last time I checked women are less happy and more depressed now when compared with the 1960-1970 period. I'm not sure that pills are specifically to blame though. But there's definitely something going on. Maybe it's the price of liberation.

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I don’t think enough women visited psychiatrists before 1970 to even make an educated guess at their levels of depression

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Maybe. But I guess they should know when they are happy or not.

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How would we know if they were happy though, if every social pressure was in the direction of not expressing unhappiness?

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I think people can act as free agents even when there are social pressures.

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Expression of feelings is profoundly mediated by social pressure but I agree that free choices people make are indicative of their desires; ergo, they can choose to use contraception or not, & reasonably we can assume they are pursuing their own happiness.

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You don’t need a study to see that women dying less in childbirth and having less children and having a say over their own bodies is conducive to “happiness” over all. And no study will capture the ppl who did not have free agency to express their feelings …

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Besides if we assume that women were as unhappy then as they are unhappy today, that means they can't be satisfied with anything? Oppression was bad, liberation is bad. What's good then?

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It is in fact notoriously difficult to measure happiness, especially over time except in extreme cases For this reason we neither mandate nor prohibit birth control but rather trust individuals to decide for themselves

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Choice and the material circumstances to make choice possible.

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Given he certainly is unwilling to believe women *now,* I don't think he'd have listened *then,* either.

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It wasn’t even called depression then, it was usually known as anxiety.

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oh some did, and they'd get much less calibrated pills-"mother's little helper," my grandma took Valium regularly. or old school psychoanalysis, where you can get told your CSA is all in your head bc no one wanted to hear it when Freud first said "hey, I think they're telling the truth"

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Can you provide a study that shows women’s depression levels in 1960? Because all I’m getting are paper saying we don’t have good measures.

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Anecdotal evidence: www.goretro.com/2014/08/moth...

Mother's Little Helper: Vintage Drug Ads Aimed at WomenGo Retro is a blog celebrating the people, places, and things from the pop culture past with a focus on the 1960s through the 1980s.www.goretro.com
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Oh, that’s a fantastic post!

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Ha, I was just gonna post about how authoritative you'd consider a certain Rolling Stones song from '66 about mothers and their feelings.

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Oh, wow, the Ritalin ads are fascinating, because I guarantee you that *some* of those women were having executive function trouble due to what we'd now call ADHD, and the Ritalin may have actually helped! ("Mild depression and mild chronic fatigue" is not a bad description of me off Vyvanse)

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(Of course, like the other meds mentioned, it was overprescribed, that goes without saying--just fascinates me that there were probably actually correct use cases too)

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I’ll agree with “overprescribed” only as far as offered without any investigation or societal/community support for problems (like not having a choice regarding bearing children or career etc). there probably were way more people who needed medical treatment but couldn’t get it.

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Yes! I ran out of character space, but yeah, exactly. Some people who need the meds not getting them, some people having it pushed on them inappropriately, some meds/drug interactions not well understood, and somewhere in there *some* people being helped.

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If we go by female suicide levels, though, based on a PNAS study, the rate goes on regular cycles, but following the midpoint of the 1970s, when the pill is starts becoming broadly legal to unmarried women, it begins to drop, even moreso after Roe v Wade and has never reached those highs again.

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What are those spikes with the male suicides there? ...wars? PTSD?

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Great Depression is the big one. Economic downturns also seem to raise the rate.

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Gosh, I wonder why. 😑

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You probably already know this but I’d be *very* wary of any statistics on suicide. Artefacts of reporting are likely to be far more important than actual changes.

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Oh yeah, particularly with Catholics, who probably also underreported pill use. But it’s still better than anything we have on depression pre-pill.

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Keep talking like everyone here hasn’t seen right through you.

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yeah women were thrilled with not being able to open their own bank account, legally protest marital rape, get an abor--well. Birth control hard to get, slut shaming, no open lesbians, and let's not forget the awesomeness of girdles and long line brassieres. pull my manicured finger.

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also! being involuntarily committed for basically not womaning properly! that's always a good time effectively blackmailed into staying with abusive/shit husbands bc no no-fault divorce, discrimination against single moms, low paying work... please let me know when this seems happy enough for you

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more than maybe anything else that's ever happened

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Some feminists don't agree with that though.

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And some people think the earth is flat. So?

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Sure. "Some" people don't agree that cigarette smoke is harmful. But that's where the smart money is.

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You could fucking ask us and actually listen when we say yes.

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Let me guess, you think women were better off when they were forbidden from voting, right?

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Yes it has vastly improved their lives by allowing them greater freedom and control over their lives .

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The beautiful thing about it is that anyone who doesn't want to take it, doesn't have to.

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Yes, do fuck off.

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Jesus, yes.

This wouldn't be "greatest" but in a purely "cool technology" sense I'd say the availability of civilian/consumer drones is pretty incredible.

The DNA revolution! For medical science, biology, forensics, and archeology.

Safe, effective IUDs. The modern copper one (paragard) was approved in 1984 and the hormonal one (mirena) in 2000.

Solar panels. My parents had a very early solar system, a panel that heated water directly and saved on got water bills. That was as good as you got in the 90s.

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Yeah, although we knew about the photovoltaic effect for a lot longer. Edmond Becquerel discovered that effect in 1839. The first working photovoltaic cells were created by Aleksandr Stoletov in 1888. But it took until 1954 when Bell Labs made the first practical PV cell from silicone.

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It's same with fuel cells. William Grove discovered the technology in 1838 and built the first working fuel cell. But it would take until 1932 when Francis Thomas Bacon made the first practical fuel cell, which served as the base for the fuel cells NASA developed for the Gemini Project.

HIV is no longer a death sentence and a vaccine is on the horizon. Same with a ton of cancers.

Charged coupled device.

Berner-Lee and HTML

Gravitational wave observatories

Things got much worse before they got better in this period, but HIV has gone to a treatable and widely treated chronic condition from a death sentence in the past 20-30 years

crunchwrap

Not having A nuclear war

are we doing We Didn't Start The Fire but optimist twist

The internet connecting different cultures. Specifically how it provided support to marginalized people who used to think they were alone, but can now find their community from thousands of miles away.

Modern computing

With the internet, the entire planet is your job market, your circle of pals, and your dating pool.

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Enshittification coming for all that...

Not quite the same time period, but 66 years (or less) from first understanding of DNA (structure in ‘53) to CRISPR-based genome editing.

Unleaded gas? Simply the work of the EPA and similar in cleaning the air is ASTONISHING to anybody who remembers what the air used to be like.

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I saw some early Columbo episodes set in ~1970 LA, and at first I thought the film had degraded. But no, the air was just that polluted.

PCR?

When do we consider the Green Revolution to have happened?

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A great American, unironically

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We should canonize him

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Him and Hugh Thompson

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I cry every time

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Yep

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And Jonas Salk

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And pasteur

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Not American but yes

Ending regular famines, ending chronic malnutrition in most of the world, & making birth control widely available.

Surely the launch of the "world wide web" (and hypertext markup language aka HTML) in 1993 was a major achievement. Sure, we done gone f*cked it all up since then, but the original intention was a good one.

-drastic reduction in infant mortality -international agreement to ban CFCs, reversing the expansion of the hole in the ozone layer -renewables cheaper than coal -ending apartheid -establishing democracy in much of central and southern Europe, Latin America, and several Asian countries

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4-bit to 64-bit processors? Going from, like 92,000 instructions per second in 1971 to billions per second in 2026.

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rudimentary, room-sized mainframe systems to the mobile smartphone is fuckin crazy when you think about it.

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yeah my dad (a programmer since 1962) is like “this phone is orders of magnitude more powerful than the machines I started out working on and so cheap it’s practically disposable” he started on the PDP-1, I think

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mass produced PCBs also pretty wild. We've made consumer-grade circuit boards so ubiquitous you can spin up a computational process feature into practically anything.

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A disposable vape today has more processing power than a PDP-1

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I mean even just the calculator I had for AP Calculus in 2000 was more powerful than the mainframe my mom used when writing her master's thesis.

HIV treatments have come a LONG way

ok gave this a real think and I think the fact that there's so many that I couldn't decide is an answer by itself

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for an actual answer, broadly I think there are 2 types listed: 1) highly impressive, influential invention 2) making a relatively banal thing in wealthy nations accessible to the entire world an example of one that's both would be the global rollout of smartphones to most of humanity

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i would hesitate to call that "great" as in positive though. or at least not before we destroy the functional monopoly Meta has on global telecommunications w/ Facebook Insta and Whatsapp, then implement serious regulations on app design

Recency biases, but: Development of the COVID-19 vaccine.

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No that was very cool. And its not recent completely, the underlying science has been around since the 80s and built upon

Eradicating rubella

Escaping the Cold War without some damn fool US or Russian soldier nuking the planet.

Wikipedia.

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Both in terms of what it is and in terms of how it was created/how it operates (or at least the ideal of it, I know there are plenty of problems in practice but still, the idea of “the entire world works together to create a repository of factual knowledge” is an amazing one.)

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@jslandau.cc this is the way

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Large vocabulary continuous speech recognition appeared in ‘97.

Despite the many downsides, the Internet.

In my lifetime I've gone from a TI calculator with 8 bar led display to this Pixel 10 in my hands. Connected by home WiFi and then to a fiber modem out to the Web and Internet.

The massive decline in global poverty, from roughly half the living human population in 1969 to less than 10% today even with that population more than doubling in that time.

HIV going from "you have three years make your peace" to a reduction in lifespan only visible statistically.

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And the fact that we did it with small molecule drugs rather than a vaccine is something that would have been 100% not predictable even a few decades ago. Most of the early stuff was running to stay in place given how quickly resistance popped up.

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Even PEP is pretty astounding. My mom had a needlestick injury in the 90s as a RN and it was scary.

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That still blows my mind when I think about it.

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Poodle Hat is another great

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Restriction enzymes (first to be isolated HindII, 1970) CRISPR/dCAS9 Immensely powerful tools for both for research and gene therapy Thank you bacteria 🦠

LANDSAT and, from that, availability of satellite imagery, in timeseries, across multiple spectral ranges NDVI (Normalized difference vegetation index) is so basic that it’s hard for me to think of it as “invented,” much less as recently as 1973 (or 69 if thinking of such indices generally)

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The Americans with Disabilities (I don’t know how things have changed in other parts of the world) And let’s hear it for Wikipedia (whose model is gravely endangered by the billionaires who own AI)

Wikipedia, the largest and most translated collection of knowledge in human history, is free for everyone and accessible anywhere.

Minor compared to smallpox or sanitation, but American central cities are cleaner and safer than in the late 20th century to an extent that for many demographics they're more appealing than suburbs. Also, American food/coffee/beer is better by several orders of magnitude.

The campaign to install toilets in even poor, rural homes and end the custom of defecating outside in India was shockingly successful, and only happened in the past 15 years.

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wow, really? AWESOME

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Now if only they can do something about the toilet paper. Not kidding, bring your own.

Saying nice after any use of 69

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Nice

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Relational Database and practical Application Programming Interface (API) both emerged in the 1970s. IMHO 100 years from now, looking back, both will be ranked among the greatest human inventions ever.

Digital payment, especially through credit cards, is another game changer. Impact society and how we live a lot more than moon landing.

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Good call Gordon.

In the neighborhood, and I guess it's more of a standardization push than an invention, but it's a major achievement nevertheless: ISO 668

Seems like an increasingly safe bet that the things you will be able to do with a computer in 2035, relative to 1969, will be at least an Apollo/Kitty Hawk ratio. Not sure which will be number one in retrospect, but VLSI, the Internet, and transformers will probably make the top ten.

getting soda cans to open reliably without leaving bits of metal all over the place

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Are we counting social progress/human rights, or only tech/medicine/infrastructure stuff?

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Let’s do just tech since I think that’s Thiel’s complaint

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- the internet! - GPS in our cars and pockets - survival rates for many cancers going way up

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HPV vaccine!!

Consumption of media. We went from paper, film, and early tape to now being able to access nearly every book, movie, magazine, song, hell even any recipe, instantly. It’s near to witchcraft and it happened in a lifetime

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Pediatric leukemia. For the most common type, ALL, it was so commonly a death sentence that it became a firmly entrenched TV trope as late as the early 90s and frankly late 90s too. Now? If you catch it early enough, 98% survival rate is entirely possible.

Pretty much everything related to computers, the internet, telecommunications. This has not always been an achievement used for good (but then, neither was aviation), but it's definitely been impressive.

My great-grandfather used to sit on his back porch and watch the wright brothers try to fly their prototypes in a big field behind his house, and lived to see the moon landing on TV.

Machine tools, CNC tools, Computer measuring tools.

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Ooh underrated but huge for fabrication of…most products

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Similar niche, standard shipping

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The '50s for that really. The Box is excellent overview.

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AI would not be possible without tight tolerance measurements and CNC machine tools. The machines that make the machines that make the chips that fuel our anxiety

Childhood mortality, maternity mortality. Gene therapy, gene editing, farm utilization, irrigation, food preservation, financial tools.

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I mean globally they are the best they’ve ever been!

For me, the eradication of polio in the USA in 1994, a disease that plagued my childhood. Recently, Dracunculiasis (Guinea-worm disease) is on the verge of being eradicated, with 13 human cases reported in 2024, thanks to Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter and The Carter Center. It could all be undone.

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Right - RFK Jr is working hard on bringing back eradicated diseases

Gravitational wave detection. For the first time in history, humanity gained a new "sense," allowing us to hear the universe through ripples in spacetime rather than simply see it through light.

I came down with type 1 diabetes a year ago, and the tech is fucking amazing. Like when I was crying over the endo diagnosing me because I'd looked up my life expectancy, she said "No, that's completely changed in thr last ten years from the new tech, and the stats haven't had time to catch up yet."

my wonderful wife and son were both born after 1969 and they are the greatest achievements of history

Reversing the damage to the ozone layer

Once it’s figured out gene therapy will be a massive achievement. Genetic diseases like sickle cell and diabetes, the vast majority of cancers, and even AIDS will have a cure. This is actually what science is pushing hard for right now. MRNa stuff has been around since the mid 2000’s.

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The only real downside to it is that pretty much every cure will have to be tailored to each patient so each one is going to start at like seven figures. Oh, and leukemia is one of its side effects but another massive achievement has been how effective current medicine is at treating that.

The green revolution, which technically began well before 1969 but the fact that food security around the world was mostly solved by the mid 60’s was massive for global stability. Also, RIP USAID which helped to spearhead this.

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Historically, there were three of these! The first agricultural revolution (coming up with it), the second (the mid 1700s), and the 1960s

Streaming services figuring out a way to make sure we don't save any money by cutting cable.

I’m piggybacking but I think it’s good that in the US a phone conversation (telephony is mostly now interwebs) is massively cheaper than booze or a pack of cigarettes