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Every couple of weeks someone stumbles upon this like they think they've made a good point and every couple of weeks the response is the same. Try not being a donut

Maybe instead of moving to objectively worse and in some cases, unsafe red states, maybe we should just build more housing in blue states so that housing will be more affordable. Just a thought.

Yeah, cuz those places suck. Also, most people don't "want" to live anywhere, they want to live where they are. Moving is expensive. Are you going to spend the money to move to shitville without a job lined up? Think before posting

Crazy that people want to live where there are jobs and less risk of government capture of fundamentalist weirdos. So picky!

Ok Boomer

Affordable our asses what world you living in !

incredible example of asking a worthwhile question and then landing with confidence on the dumbest possible answer

yes the problem is that today’s young people don’t want to live in shithole nothingburger exurbs run by police mafias and frothing at the mouth conservative maniacs

"place with a large community of welcoming people and people in my minority group in a state that isn't constantly trying and/or succeeding at making queer people's existence and women's healthcare illegal and where I don't have to spend 20% of my income on a car" ≠ "place in movies and tv shows"

I work in the biotech industry. Tell me how many jobs there are in Cleveland vs SF, Seattle, Boston… if I lose my job tomorrow I can most likely find another one without relocating…

bro you live in california im ctfu you realise some people were born in cities but can’t afford housing like their parents could? welcome to like half the people i know in toronto including myself

You mean "vibrant urban regions"? Yeah, I'm sticking with my home in a state where we look after people.

right, correct. Houses are affordable in places that suck, because people don't want to live there.

hi! are you from Cleveland? Because I am! The reason no one wants to live there is bc Ohio is objectively less pleasant than a lot of other states! it’s cold and unpredictably so! The taxes are oppressively high! I live in Florida now! Also the house you linked is in a shitty area

1. The jobs are in the huge metros. That is where the jobs are by every objective measure. 2. Lots of young people don’t want to live in a red state with laws that may be actively hostile to them, especially during Trump 2.0. I literally cannot safely move to a red state now.

uh have you seen ohio politics?

We move where the jobs are buddy

People's preferences are fine, and it's the housing availability that's wrong

Please can you acknowledge that being trans makes moving to many of those places genuinely dangerous?

Yeah I won’t get hate crimed here for trying to use a bathroom you fuckin dipshit

they make media about places people live

People also live there in real life, not just in movies and tv shows. And there’s a reason for that!

Hi! I don’t give a shit about seeing my home on TV, I give a shit about not getting hate crimed for being trans. Hope this helps (you grow some fucking empathy, you weird ghoul)

Yes, I can't imagine why people would prefer to live in places where you can get around without an expensive and air-polluting car

This is extremely fucking patronizing fyi

why do people want to live in cool nice places? must from watching the darn tv and movies

Houses are always cheaper in places where people can't find jobs. 🙄 Demand drives prices.

People want to live in walkabkle cities with decent, god forbid even good, public transit. Maybe if Cleveland wasn't a sprawling, car-dependent shithole, more people would desire to live there, and home prices would increase.

yeah let’s move to a conservative flyover shit hole good idea

People do not want to live in places they see in media: they make media in places where people want to live.

It is illegal for me and all other trans/nonbinary people to pee in a public restroom in Ohio.

If housing is cheaper there's probably good reason for that, think about it......

The people who WORK in movies and TV shows HAVE to live in those places too. Not the ones who get paid millions of dollars. They can live wherever they want…

How is job availability and wages there, huh?

now, I'm no scholar or master of the written word, but, from what you've typed, it seems like you're suggesting that people want to live in the places that people want to live. Am I reading your words correctly?

i don't think it's true that young people are mainly moving to expensive cities...... maybe some influencers or people who got tech/finance jobs do it, but everything i've read is that a lot of medium size cities are booming due to younger people moving to them

No, they want housing in areas with good public transportation, walkable and bikable areas, good amount of stuff to do, and areas where their rights are respected. This is what happens when most areas cater to one class and screw others.

Ignore the extremely Bluesky replies that imply you don't care about women, trans people etc. These "places people live in movies and TV shows" are real places where millions of people actually live—and are sources of net domestic out-migration, and when you ask people why, they mostly say cost.

As someone who has done both - living in red states sucks. The infrastructure sucks, the jobs suck, the law sucks, etc. It's just objectively terrible.

Those are also places where people live in real life because that's where a lot of jobs and economic opportunities are

gee I wonder why people move from Ohio to Seattle and not the other way around. Not like they've got a republican governor, or restricted abortion or anything that would make life suck

I agree. Why are people choosing to live in states like Ohio where they take your rights away in addition to hallowing out their tax bases due to suburban flight? Why would they want to live in SF or Seattle? Just crazy to me

can you remind us the basic relationship between price of a good and demand of a good? do you think there's a reason those places are cheap?

People go where the fucking jobs are film at 11.

Many young people want to live in places where * it’s legal for themselves or their friends to be trans * they can get abortions if they want or need them The overlap of this with “affordable” is, unfortunately, not great. (Cleveland does not do well here, eg.)

Come to beautiful Camden! Easy jaunt to Philadelphia, very affordable! www.zillow.com/homedetails/...

that house kinda sucks? its like not that fair from a major highway, is about 15-20 minutes outside of cleveland proper, but also isnt close to lakewood which is a nice place to walk around, so you are super car locked. doesnt have good school districts either

You move to Cleveland first.

Ohio has one of the highest foreclosure rates in the US.

damn i simply have to live somewhere that sucks shit why didn’t i think of that

I understand home prices in springfield are about to take a tumble and there will soon be many jobs, as long as you don't mind watching your neighbors bring rounded up and disappeared by masked thugs

Places with good urbanism

Also places where you can enjoy cannabis or get an abortion, if necessary, without worrying quite as much about going to prison. It's not all numbers.