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Solar and wind are currently meeting 90% of Britain's electricity demand. grid.iamkate.com

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Dickens misses that coal though

The cheapest energy in LCOE+ units in this chart is nuclear, as long as it's an existing plant. Building a new plant with current designs adds a lot to the cost. If only there were a way to get someone else besides the taxpayer to build those Natrium plants... bsky.app/profile/jooc...

joocifer

Regarding the power thing: Tech Bro: I want a DC that will require 2GW power! State: We will not approve this unless you do two things. Bro: OK, what? State: 1) Build your own power source to power it and 2) sell power back to the state at the rate shown in the yellow box below: Bro: 👍

I know, right?! But NO...we can't expand this here bc people think that windmills R ugly, kill birds, cause cancer, blah blah blah Fossil fuels are so much worse for all livng things' health and there's nothng pretty about smog. New electric technology sources just cut into their profit. Period.

It's interesting that CAISO (California grid) puts Biomass as renewable but not large scale hydro, but the UK grid has that reversed. Still it is super interesting to see how well renewables are being used around the world

Ответ для Shaun

Or just how freaking weird it can get. Hydro, solar and wind make up over half of SPP west generation right now, but there is about 30% being made up of coal. We've still got a long way to go.

Ответ для Shaun

Thanks for the info! SPP meaning US Colorado, Wyoming, Montana area (Google). New plug in solar / balcony solar may give many personal control to switch to solar at a lower starting point. We also already have $80 panels & $400 LFP battery generators that make DIY solar systems affordable & easy.

Nice. I presume that there’s some gas even though it adds up to more than 100% because we don’t have the grid to transport the clean electricity to where it’s needed? I presume we’re still paying as if it’s all gas generated?

Ответ для Henk Muller

Some is exported, and some is because things like turbines in gas and nuclear plants can't really be shut down and spun up efficiently without wasting a lot more resources.

Ответ для Henk Muller

Depends on where the solar is. If it's on homes then the homes are paying less. If it's in fields the cost probably hasn't changed when it should go down.

Ответ для sozcog

I don’t think that website makes any allowance for rooftop solar.

Ответ для Northbhoy

True. It's probably indirectly on there via the demand but I know my DNO has no idea how much I generate from my solar panels.

Ответ для michael-bond

And I don’t suppose they know your demand either, assuming solar meets part of the demand before you call on the grid?

Lotta cancer and dead birds about to happen there /s

President Trump often says he’s a “genius” as he “aced” THREE COGNITIVE TESTS! Yet he battles against WIND TURBINES & Solar Energy on the behalf of his oil friends & HUGE DONNORS! Science 🧫🧪 🧬 is THE ENEMY to Trump!

You could power the grid off the heat of my brow

I'll just digress a moment as I'd like to offer My most sincere thanks all those men and women working the lines and keeping the grids running. You can say what you like about the power companies but those folks are heroes.

None of this is complicated if we have the will to do this. Department of the Interior agreed to pay Invenergy $765 million to terminate offshore wind leases , bringing the administration’s total number of lease buyouts to eight at a cost of + $2.5 billion. www.utilitydive.com/news/trump-a...

Trump administration buys out 4 more offshore wind leases for $765MInvenergy will redirect the funds toward natural gas plants in Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, Kansas and Missouri as well as geothermal projects, the U.S. Department of the Interior said.www.utilitydive.com

Brilliant Now the government needs to fix the broken market pricing because this electricity is cheap to produce and even with a modest profit, should be cheap to businesses and consumers

Not much air conditioning though.

I assume no one will tell Trump about this.

But we spending billions restarting our coal mines

Britain has some of the largest tidal reaches in the world, yet has dragged its feet in harnessing tidal energy in any way, shape or form.

You guys and your kilometers and 112.7%’s. You’re a funny group of people but I still like you guys!

Ответ для ab4aoc

Export.

Ответ для Yes2RenewablesUK

That still doesn’t make sense in this case. You can’t achieve over 100% of demand. Also- if we are including export it would appear they have met 100% of demand by renewables. You silly wankers!😜

Ответ для ab4aoc

Export includes dirty energy . It's called a transition,it's temporary and messy. Some Expensive Gas ccgt remaining on the system for grid services- voltage control and inertia stabilisation,etc.

Good as that is, it’s a different picture for the last week overall.

Perhaps Trump needs to see this diagram because supporting oil companies just doesnt provide the service we need in American and its more costly and fill the pockets of Trump and his wealthy friends and screws the American people

Regrettably, the fossil in the White House, his cabinet, his administration and his accomplices in Congress are showing renewable energy the door at taxpayer expense. Trump paid $2B to companies to walk away.

An amazing and inspiring accomplishment! Big oil and tech buy American politicians, so they own America. They’re inhumane profiteers who view the planet and the billions of non-player characters inhabiting it as irrelevant trash to exploit, destroy and dispose.

Not making any difference to me, go back to burning coal for all I care.

England doesn't generate enough electricity to keep you powered.

And the country generating most of it (Scotland) is getting fucked on the price of a kilowatt hour.

we're burning more coal.

What’s that like? Have your costs come down at the household level?

Ответ для Lou

It's just a moment in time: sunny and windy right now. Often it's far less impressive than this, when conditions aren't so helpful. Costs aren't down much, alas, as UK bills are tagged to the price of gas.

But,.. but,.. according to Trump that means all their people will now have "noise cancer", all their birds are dead, their drunk drivers will have a harder time, & all the whales (or maybe he meant Wales, like Welsh? He's so stupid it could be either) are dying from this too!!! youtu.be/m4xEHsl-q4o

When Your Driver Won't Stop Talking About The Dangers Of Wind PowerYouTube video by Funny Or Dieyoutu.be

Just imagine if we had govt subsidised insulation, more solar panels on houses and car parks, publicly owned wind & tidal generation & small scale hydro power controlled by local communities. We’d pay so little for our electricity & be doing our bit against the climate emergency.

Ответ для dixonpuetafem

That's this

Ответ для Curious Robinface

Well it’s not as wide spread as it could be?

Ответ для dixonpuetafem

But almost there in terms of eliminating fossil fuels. So then I would ask why are our energy bills so high? We need a non-profit, publicly owned energy sector. Either controlled by central govt or even better by devolved powers.

Ответ для dixonpuetafem

Because energy prices are set by the highest cost fuel, which is gas. And we still need gas to maintain grid stability

Ответ для dixonpuetafem

Oh, you want it all finished now 👍 Yeah. Me too

Ответ для dixonpuetafem

You're right about tidal - always gets pushed into the long grass due to build cost and time, as v few Govts looks beyond their 5yr time horizon. Govt did compel Energyco's to fit cheaper insulation, but the schemes were allowed to self-certify and so fiddled..

Ответ для bid47

Sadly build time & cost of tidal is the main reason it's not coming to fruition yet. I personally hope it works. With some of the highest tidal changes, it could provide a lot if power.

Ответ для Anymouse🗿

Yes, 2nd highest in the World off our West coast. Only a couple of pilot schemes in operation. Great pity - much more consistent than wind. Last survey c.15 yrs ago estimated a Severn barrage wd provide c.8% of the country's electricity but wdn't help with the carbon budget by 2020. Short-termism..

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Excellent

Well done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Imagine that! Not coal. Not nuclear. Just plain old, clean, renewable energy. The non-polluting kind. WE could have that too ... if the rich guys who own coal mines weren't friends and donors of the current President. We can fix that, America. We can fix that. Vote BLUE this fall.

This is incredible. 👏

10.9% + 90.9% + 10.9% ?

Ответ для Saint Helena Island Info

Generation is exceeding demand. I’m guessing the excess is being used elsewhere.

Ответ для Thud-alt

Yeah it's just excess generation. Every energy chart made properly should have it.

Ответ для sozcog

It doesn’t really matter but I’m just a little curious about where the extra power is going.

Ответ для Thud-alt

The UK has a system in place that a laymen I can't fully explain in which they are able to export excess generated energy to mainland Europe to sell to whichever country wants/needs it. Think of it like a Panama Canal for Electricity across the pond to Europe.

Ответ для sozcog

Thank you! There must be some transmission cables under the channel. I heard that lack of such a cable system under the Mediterranean is the main impediment to using the vast solar power available in North Africa. Work in progress on that problem as I understand.

Ответ для Thud-alt

First photo is planned upgrades, second is existing interconnectors.

Ответ для Yes2RenewablesUK

Oo thank you for the photos!

Ответ для Thud-alt

If you go to the linked page you will see it also has sections on interconnectors and storage - pumped and battery - which allows you to see the full picture.

Ответ для Mark C Norwich

Thank you Sir!

But there making those foxes fat

USA Forget it. Trump.

While the U.S. is trying to kill it.

Don’t tell Trump

We did pretty well with solar+battery last year.

But but we got coal!

I’m Jealous

Seems important #Britain #NetZero is a national security and economic necessity. If the #ClimateCrisis isn't enough for you.

And 80% of your leccy bill is still gas-based pricing [I guessed 80% TBF, actually it might be 100% thinking about it?]

Ответ для Rabid Cormorant

No, that is nonsense. UK has a quasi-market with supply and demand separated, a single national grid and everyone pays the same per 30min. This is the correct way to do things.

Ответ для Teknopaul

The price of gas sets the price in the UK 80%+ of the time. montel.energy/resources/bl...

How do gas prices impact on power prices?Understanding the gas market's impact on power prices is crucial for grasping current market dynamics and predicting the effects of decarbonisation efforts.montel.energy

And in 5 hours?

Yet the price we pay is based on the price of gas. When are we rioting?

The sums don't add up? That's because we are generating so much clean energy right now that we're exporting the surplus.

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

A proper build-out of batteries and we'll be able, on days like this, to keep powering the country with solar *after the sun goes down* as is happening already in California.

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

Is gas still running due to grid distribution limitations, or a policy to keep some gas online just in case?

Ответ для Shubbardinio Hubarde esq.

You can't turn a power plant on and off like a light switch. Think of it like leaving a car engine idling ready to spin up again later.

Ответ для Ralph de Kanter

Ironically I think it's only renewable energy that can do a black start easily? Whereas nuclear needs a start up time and fossil fuels have to get even more running first.

Ответ для Anarch Wraith / Riot_0204

Everything else can go Boom in that situation. Solar and wind don't. They're literally just better in every way possible.

Ответ для Shubbardinio Hubarde esq.

A lot of the gas running today is due to transmission capacity constraints. Some of the wind in Scotland has been turned down, and balanced with gas turned up in England.

Ответ для Shubbardinio Hubarde esq.

It’s because we’d pay for it even if we didn’t use it due to fixed costs. So we almost need to use some of it. This is broken and needs fixing.

Ответ для Stew

They probably provide a healthy amount of rotating mass to the electric grid, preventing collapses as the one Spain saw. Until that’s replaced with renewable sources you’re probably better off keeping them. It’s still more efficient and cleaner powering electric cars that way than running ice cars.

Ответ для asofting

A low amount of rotating mass was NOT the reason of the grid collapse in Spain. www.pv-magazine.com/2026/03/23/e...

Entso-E report finds systemic failures behind 2025 Iberian blackout - pv magazine GlobalThe European Network of Transmission System Operators for Electricity (Entso-E) has published its final root cause report on the April 28, 2025, blackout in Spain and Portugal, finding failures across...www.pv-magazine.com
Ответ для Anton Boonstra

Oscillatory control is helped by the rotating mass I guess? I have read other publications later, and heard professional opinions from those more educated than me that led me to that conclusion. But that is great news for the electrical supply for all Europe. The more renewable we can get the better

Ответ для Shubbardinio Hubarde esq.

Cos the gas bastards rigged it so they get paid whatevs

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

Power outages could become a complete thing of the past with proper battery storage set up throughout the system.

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

The new sodium-ion chemistry is promising; much cheaper than lithium. Also, does having batteries distributed round the country reduce peak load on the grid, and reduce the need to upscale to provide for it?

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

UK has big batteries right, in the form of hydro plants.

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

"we are generating so much" Scotland is generating so much. If it wasn't for electricity from Scotland, it would be rationed today in England, with absolutely no benefit for people in Scotland.

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

California, as a state, is doing a good job of adopting renewable energy.. Unfortunately it's not translating to savings for consumers. PG&E pricing is higher than most of the country, and they abandoned net metering so you can export 1600 kWh back to the grid and get paid only $2 for it. Sad.

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

And how much does that make for the country? Plus why isn’t this being publicised?

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

"we are generating so much" Scotland is generating so much. If it wasn't for electricity from Scotland, it would be rationed today in England.

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

"we are generating so much" Scotland is generating so much. If it wasn't for electricity from Scotland, it would be rationed today in England.

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

"we are generating so much" Scotland is generating so much. If it wasn't for electricity from Scotland, it would be rationed today in England.

Ответ для Gregory Norminton

One neat thing to think about: the energy density of solar panels is increasing with each new iteration, so even though our needs are increasing, the surface area needed to generate the same power is decreasing at the same time.

Big oil should be happy to have a smaller burden

Over 100% of demand met by non fossil. 12.7% of production exported. (We usually import from most sources but very windy and quite sunny but not hot in UK today) Surprised no free electricity sessions from Octopus today…

Seems like a good idea for civilized, progressive societies.

Ответ для Dean

Too bad British society isn't one of them.

Fantastic

That would be the beans .

Sigh…. says this American whose car said 107 degrees after work!

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It's generated 100% of my power, and I drive an EV

Happy for them, but it just rubs in how backwards we are here.

But Dumb Donny doesn’t like those and wants to bring back coal

We are getting beaten out by almost everybody in the world. WAKE UP!!!! Alternative energy is the present and the future.

Meanwhile over here in dumbass land...

Trump doesn’t care about affordability or the environment.

But we need that £35B private investment in nuclear in case the sun goes out.

Ответ для Iain

We need to start planning for 4 billion years in the future. Just being prudent.

Ответ для Jason

We have failed to plan for the near future, the profit motive is destroying us. Have a look at ocean temperatures, the slowing of AMOC, extreme weather patterns and then say we are capable of planning for the future

Ответ для Iain

This was sarcasm. We barely plan for next week. The death of the sun in 4 billion years is inconceivably far away. Also the manner in which the sun will die will render Earth uninhabitable no matter how well we plan. But, yeah, a joke.

Ответ для Jason

It’ll be fine. Keep throwing billions at Musk and he’ll save us all.

We’re behind, people!

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

We’re the laggards of the 1st world order. Too busy making oligarchs richer. Only one planet like earth. No where to flee. It’s a decision. Like making a million other decisions… choosing not to lie, cheat, steal or kill. We’re making bad decisions. That ALWAYS leads to bad outcomes!

@governorwalz.mn.gov can we make Mn the first fully energy green state? If you run for Gov again, maybe you could have this on your list of accomplishments? Mn deserves more of your leadership. Please don’t leave us with Klobuchar, she is too centrist and will capitulate easily.

America is working towards bringing back horse and buggy within the next decade. All those worried farmers will be grateful to be growing lots of hay again! Why only go back to coal? Further back, I say!

Per a Google search 13-17 percent of Arizona’s electricity demand is met by solar.

Ответ для Stand Indivisible AZ ❌👑

Given how much further south Arizona is than the UK it should be very easy to get that above 50%. Apart from politics of course.

So when will our bills reduce?

Drill baby drill

Trump is running US behind in everything!

And we still pay the highest prices in Europe. Need to fix our pricing!

If only someone could advise Trump to put the whole US under SOLAR TO,Coal and Oil won't last forever,maybe sooner than we think 🤔 WE ALL NEED TO GO SOLAR for OUR COUNTRY'S SAKE !🙏💙🗽

America not being a leader in solar energy is due to a president that is in bed with the corporate oil and gas companies who only sees it as a competitor, all the while the rest of the world is passing us by.

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That's great!

Guess they didn’t have to go Fascist and take part in the genocide for Gaza’s gas after all? Oh wait…That PM’s father-in-law…what does he do again?

And trmp is SPENDING MILLIONS to STOP the US from using solar and wind!! What would it take to get the UK to invade us?

Someday the USA will enter the 21st century. Currently, we’re stuck in the late 19th century!🙄

YET electric prices are still tied to the price of gas, ridiculous practice that just robs us.

That is so wonderful.... I am so angry that Americans have not demanded the same from our government!

Not here, Not with this administration!

The problem is gas has fixed costs. So using less of it costs us more. So it makes sense to use a certain amount of it. We need to fix this so we can shrink the orange/red part.

Ответ для Stew

Can you explain that further? I have always wondered why gas never goes to zero, even when the price is negative. I don’t see why using a small amount materially impacts the fixed costs?

Yup! And note that around luchtime today the price was negative!

Someday, America will be as smart as Britain.

and if the Utility Companies listened to ONE CEO some 30 years ago when he suggested at a CONFERENCE that the Companies should invest in SOLAR and WIND Power so they would control ALL the energy output and he was BOO'D off the stage. He went to Europe and set up a Solar Company and is now RICH

Negative power prices are a glimpse of the post-scarcity grid. Now watch institutions try to turn abundance back into rent.

Keep seeing posts like this and they're misleading, so here's a bit more info. Yesterday, nuclear met 14% of total demand and fossil fuels met 16%. Wind was 28% and solar was 3%. Only ~18% of daily energy use is electricity; the rest is gas + oil. Wind + solar = .31 * .18 ≈ 5.5% of total energy.

GB Fuel type power generation productionGridWatch | Live statistic of UK National Electricity grid by type of generation | Solar PV power Generation | Coal Stations output in Gigawatts | Wind Output Gigawatts | Nuclear energy output |Biomas...gridwatch.co.uk

Don’t bother with facts. We Americans love oil and gas. It’s so expensive you Brits don’t know what your missing. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yet, our bills are still insanely expensive!

And I look at my leccy bill and I think, fuck the politicians. In so many ways we are energy rich, but here we are, fleeced and unprotected.

Not if they build more datacenters

Yes electricity. There is still a huge amount of natural gas used in home boilers for heating etc. The problem is the conversion to electric. How much will that cost?

Ответ для Lisa Elbows Up 🇨🇦

With 25 million homes using gas, it's going to be some task.

10.9 + 90.9 + 10.9 = 112,7%

Ответ для Persona-Non-Grata

Read the note, percentage will exceed 100% if power is being exported.

Ответ для Face Drawn from Memory

ah, like contracts, it is all in the small text

Yes- ELECTRIC- but not ENERGY use due to the incredibly high use of natural gas in homes and businesses.

Solar and wind do not line the pockets of CEOs of oil companies.

Ответ для memere5

Yeah it enables a power shift away from energy companies. This is the era they lose political power. Private solar installations are eventually going to replace the need for electric companies entirely outside of Industrial locations.

I've never been to the native homeland of my ancestors but perhaps an island is the best use case for wind and solar.

Yet... the British working class still can't afford their energy bills, facing record arrears to the tune of almost £5 bil.

If everyone had AC those numbers would be lower. It’s bad for them under a heat dome. Will feel like 107+ on the east coast of US this weekend. Thankful I upgraded my unit last year. Federal Gov. bought out the 4 projects Duke Energy was planning for wind. 500million will now go to nuclear and coal.

Here GOP LOVE FOSSIL FUELS-so they can make money for themselves& cronies

Brilliant.

Meanwhile the Trump administrations bribed Duke Energy with $129M to dump their wind and solar farms in favor of nuclear and other non-renewables.

Can someone explain this to the stupid Russian Republicans and their treasonous supporters.

Yes, but what are the chances that logic like this will impact the humans (taxonomically speaking) who elected this current administration? See what i said earlier on a separate but related matter: bsky.app/profile/ibnt...

ibnturab

But is there any likelihood that the ~166M who voted actively & passively for this s**t-for-brains administration with wannabe Jesus Mandalorian Felon/Rapist Windmill Slaying Don Quixote Trump who stands by his snorting-coke-off-toilet-seats Health Secretary, are capable of logic & reason?

…and yet we’re all paying for the most expensive method of production. This needs sorting out.

News like that brightens my day. Makes me confident that with time, we Americans will also enjoy such success, once we get rid of one big, fat pothole in the road right now.

Those are good numbers but still the reality solar- during the daytime & not cloudy, wind - on windy days. Like other nations much needs to be done to R&D ways to generate & store electric energy. Gas & Nuclear still are needed for baseload supply and backup

Wot? No clean, beautiful coal? Way to go Britain, show the world how it is done.

And we’re rewarded with a 13% increase in domestic energy prices because “something, something else” according to BBC sources.

I wish I lived in a forward-thinking country and not the U.S.

4 new Hydro projects approved and another 12 in the pipeline, Renewables are our future.

Ответ для mcewana1963

They were approved but was a revised regulatory payment approach also approved? I couldn’t tell from the reports I read. If the payment side hasn’t been approved then they will still not go ahead.

Ответ для Northbhoy

www.theguardian.com/environment/... This is what I read 👍

First major hydropower projects in Great Britain in 40 years given go-aheadThree pumped storage hydroelectric power station sites in Scotland on list of 16 long-duration electricity storage planswww.theguardian.com
Ответ для mcewana1963

Yeah, that’s probably the same article I read. So I am still unsure. Thanks though.

Here in Texas Solar and Wind make up a good percentage, too.

No it’s not

Britain is moving forward in the 21st century. The US on the other hand is racing back to the 19th century, to the days of coal and child labour.